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Q.The sum of three numbers in G.P. is 56. If we subtract 1, 7, 21 from these numbers in that order, we obtain an arithmetic progression. Find the numbers.

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The three numbers in G.P. are found by letting them be a,ar,ar2a, ar, ar^2, using the sum condition a(1+r+r2)=56a(1+r+r^2)=56, and the A.P. condition after subtraction gives 2(ar−7)=a−1+ar2−212(ar-7)=a-1+ar^2-21. Solving yields the numbers as 8, 16, 32 (or the reverse order 32, 16, 8).

Concept and Intuition

When a problem involves both a geometric progression and an arithmetic progression, the key is to translate each condition into equations. For a G.P., the natural choice is to let the three numbers be aa, arar, and ar2ar^2 — this automatically captures the constant ratio rr between consecutive terms.

The subtraction then creates a new sequence: a−1a-1, ar−7ar-7, ar2−21ar^2-21. For this to be an A.P., the middle term must be the arithmetic mean of the first and third terms. That single equation, combined with the sum condition, gives us two equations in two unknowns (aa and rr). The rest is algebra — but careful algebra, because the numbers can appear in either order.

Watch out

A common mistake is to forget that the G.P. could be increasing or decreasing. Both r=2r=2 and r=12r=\frac12 satisfy the equations, giving the same set of numbers in reverse order. The problem asks for "the numbers", so either order is acceptable.

Step-by-Step Solution

1. Set up the G.P.

Let the three numbers in geometric progression be aa, arar, and ar2ar^2, where aa is the first term and rr is the common ratio.

2. Use the sum condition.

The sum is 56, so:

a+ar+ar2=56a + ar + ar^2 = 56

a(1+r+r2)=56(Equation 1)a(1 + r + r^2) = 56 \quad \text{(Equation 1)}

3. Translate the A.P. condition.

After subtracting 1, 7, and 21 respectively, we get the sequence:

a−1,ar−7,ar2−21a-1,\quad ar-7,\quad ar^2-21

For three numbers to be in arithmetic progression, the middle term must equal the average of the first and third:

2(middle)=first+third2(\text{middle}) = \text{first} + \text{third}

2(ar−7)=(a−1)+(ar2−21)2(ar - 7) = (a - 1) + (ar^2 - 21)

4. Simplify the A.P. equation.

2ar−14=a+ar2−222ar - 14 = a + ar^2 - 22

2ar−14=a+ar2−222ar - 14 = a + ar^2 - 22

Bring all terms to one side:

2ar−14−a−ar2+22=02ar - 14 - a - ar^2 + 22 = 0

2ar−a−ar2+8=02ar - a - ar^2 + 8 = 0

−a(r2−2r+1)+8=0-a(r^2 - 2r + 1) + 8 = 0

Notice that r2−2r+1=(r−1)2r^2 - 2r + 1 = (r-1)^2, so:

−a(r−1)2+8=0-a(r-1)^2 + 8 = 0

a(r−1)2=8(Equation 2)a(r-1)^2 = 8 \quad \text{(Equation 2)}

Tip

Spotting the perfect square (r−1)2(r-1)^2 early saves a lot of messy algebra. This is a common pattern when A.P. conditions simplify.

5. Solve the system.

From Equation 2: a=8(r−1)2a = \frac{8}{(r-1)^2}

Substitute into Equation 1:

8(r−1)2(1+r+r2)=56\frac{8}{(r-1)^2}(1 + r + r^2) = 56 …

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