Q.A girl riding a bicycle with a speed of 5 m/s towards north direction, observes rain falling vertically down. If she increases her speed to 10 m/s, rain appears to meet her at 45∘ to the vertical. What is the speed of the rain? In what direction does rain fall as observed by a ground based observer?
(Hint: Assume north to be i^ direction and vertically downward to be −j^. Let the rain velocity vr be ai^+bj^. The velocity of rain as observed by the girl is always vr−vgirl. Draw the vector diagram/s for the information given and find a and b. You may draw all vectors in the reference frame of ground based observer.)
Imagine you're sitting in a train that's moving smoothly. The person sitting opposite you appears to be perfectly still — yet both of you are hurtling past trees and buildings outside at 80 km/h. Which is the "real" velocity? The answer is: there is no single real velocity. Velocity always depends on who is measuring it.
That's the core idea of relative velocity: the velocity of an object as seen from a particular frame of reference. Change the frame, and the measured velocity changes.
The Intuition: Walking on a Moving Train
Let's build this step by step.
Step 1 — You on a stationary train.
You walk forward at 3 km/h inside the aisle. A friend on the platform sees you moving at exactly 3 km/h. Simple.
Step 2 — The train moves at 80 km/h, you stand still inside.
Your friend on the platform sees you moving at 80 km/h (the train's speed). You see the platform rushing backward at 80 km/h.
Step 3 — You walk forward at 3 km/h while the train moves at 80 km/h.
Your friend on the platform sees you moving at 80+3=83 km/h.
But the person sitting next to you sees you moving at just 3 km/h.
Same you, same walking speed — two different observers, two different velocities. That's relative velocity in action.
Note
The "velocity" you feel is always relative to something. When you say "a car is moving at 60 km/h", you usually mean relative to the ground. But the ground itself is moving (Earth rotates, orbits the Sun, etc.). There is no absolute rest frame.
The Precise Definition
Relative velocity of object A with respect to object B is the velocity of A as measured by an observer who is at rest with respect to B.
Mathematically, if vA and vB are velocities of A and B measured in the same frame (say, the ground), then:
vAB=vA−vB
Where vAB means "velocity of A relative to B".
Read this carefully: you subtract the velocity of the reference object (B) from the velocity of the object you're tracking (A).
Why Subtraction? — The Logic
Think of the train example again. Let:
vyou = your velocity relative to ground = 83 km/h forward
vtrain = train's velocity relative to ground = 80 km/h forward
Your velocity relative to the train is:
vyou,train=vyou−vtrain=83−80=3 km/h forward
That matches: the person on the train sees you walking forward at 3 km/h.
Now what about the platform's velocity relative to you?
Platform is at rest relative to ground: vplatform=0
vplatform, you=0−83=−83 km/h
The negative sign means the platform appears to move backward relative to you — which is exactly what you see from the moving train.
Watch out
A common mistake: thinking relative velocity is just adding speeds. It's vector subtraction. If two objects move in opposite directions, you subtract a negative — which becomes addition. Always use the vector formula.
One-Dimensional Cases (The Simplest)
When motion is along a straight line, we can use signs (+ for one direction, − for the opposite).
Concept: Relative velocity. The rain's velocity relative to the girl is vr/g=vr−vg.
Let vr=ai^+bj^, with north as +i^ and up as +j^. The girl's velocity is vg=vgi^.
At vg=5m/s, rain appears vertical, so the horizontal part of vr/g vanishes: a−5=0⟹a=5m/s.
At vg=10m/s, rain appears at 45∘ to the vertical. The relative velocity is (5−10)i^+bj^=−5i^+bj^, and at 45∘ the two components are equal in magnitude: ∣b∣=5, so b=−5m/s (rain falls downward). …
The rain's velocity relative to the ground is 5i^−5j^m/s (north =i^, up =j^): its speed is 52≈7.07m/s, falling at 45∘ to the vertical, tilted toward the north.
Setting up
Take north as i^ and vertically downward as −j^ (so up is +j^). Let the rain's velocity relative to the ground be vr=ai^+bj^. The velocity of rain as seen by the girl, moving at vgirl, is vr−vgirl.
Step 1 — First observation (girl at 5m/s north)
The rain appears to fall vertically, so the horizontal part of the relative velocity is zero:
vr−5i^=(a−5)i^+bj^⟹a−5=0⟹a=5m/s
Step 2 — Second observation (girl at 10m/s north)
Now the relative velocity is:
vr−10i^=(5−10)i^+bj^=−5i^+bj^
This makes 45∘ with the vertical, so its horizontal and vertical parts must have equal magnitude:
Concept: Subtract the Two Observation Equations to Eliminate the Unknown Rain Velocity First
Method: Difference-Vector Shortcut
The direct method solves for the rain's own velocity components (a,b) using each observation as a separate equation. This method instead subtracts the two apparent-velocity equations from each other first -- since the (unknown, but fixed) rain velocity cancels out of the difference entirely, this immediately gives a relation between the known girl-velocity change and the known change in apparent direction, without solving for vr at all until the final step.
Steps
Write the apparent velocity in each case as vr/girl=vr−vgirl. Since vr is the same, fixed vector in both observations, subtracting the two equations eliminates it:
This holds no matter what vr actually is -- it's a pure consequence of both observations being of the same object.
Use the first observation to fix vr/girl,1 completely. "Rain appears to fall vertically" at 5 m/s girl-speed means the apparent velocity is purely vertical:
vr/girl,1=(0,−c)for some unknown downward speed c.
Apply the difference-vector result from Step 1 to get the second apparent velocity directly, without any new unknowns:
vr/girl,2=vr/girl,1−5^=(−5,−c).
Use the second observation's stated angle (45∘ to the vertical) to pin down c. At 45∘, the horizontal and vertical magnitudes must be equal:
∣−5∣=∣−c∣⟹c=5 m/s. …